Date: 9 Jul 2024 18:32 (UTC)
forensicks: by <user name=mukha> (Frantic)
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"You literally locked a warden in Zero!" That is actual power! The allegations that this reaction could have actually been part of a rushed, mishandled investigation that made things worse in other ways, those are armchair hypotheticals. The fact that it happened is not hypothetical and Walter truly believes Malcolm is disingenuous about this. "You always do this, you shut everything out and—defend yourself."

But with that he had faltered. He knows how literally close to home this is for Malcolm, how much pain he carries inside, being hurt for saving murder victims. That his nature makes it even harder for him to block out the pain.

There's so much that Walter could say. (Least importantly, that the majority of network uses are very inefficient voice which has made everything both more visceral and harder for Walter to read totally, especially in the privacy he'd prefer.) That some people are new, some people are inmates, some people are scared, of a faceless murderer that was dangled in front of them just out of reach. That many inmates haven't accepted that they died, but every single one of them is facing the trauma of being incarcerated, many specifically having the protection of their life used to force them to agree, and several have voiced explicitly that Zero twists their powers or triggers their trauma. That Malcolm chose to be here, has less need for his deals than almost anyone else, and has chosen to stay for multiple pairings, after everything he's observed. But...

Is this why the Admiral pulled out the big guns on Walter? Is the brainwashing bond of the permanent pairing working? Because Malcolm didn't truly choose to stay, not this long. He's in a cult. He's being crushed for a murder he didn't commit in a way inextricably intertwined in Walter's mind with the absolute bullshit that has happened to Misty, who is currently in a coma that is hopefully not a fabrication by Jacob Seed. Walter can't stand by and watch someone he cares about suffer like this. He... he has to at least use what the Barge has provided in his own favor, though with how long Malcolm hasn't reacted he's sure he'll think Walter yet again backread for funsies without a little more of a push.

"I'm asking you to try to understand. For me. Don't you remember saying justice is for the victims?" He reaches for his hand, admittedly something they could both imagine from past experience being looked at askance . "Have you never wondered why it's like I already know you?"
Edited (added a few more words that do not change theme) Date: 9 Jul 2024 18:37 (UTC)

Date: 9 Jul 2024 19:58 (UTC)
forensicks: by me (Reminisce)
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"Not unilaterally, but whatever the Greek word is for small-group-laterally?" Walter says. He can feel Malcolm's connection to him, but it's far away, wrapped up deep inside Malcolm's logical affect - would probably be impossible to sense over audio alone or for someone already more skeptical. "I had a talk with Will about this," Walter admits. "To go off something the closest to what you've talked about doing, I really think you might as well have filtered to a few trusted wardens in the first place. Why not? He didn't agree on this, but I think similar anger after the fact would hurt less than being told out loud over and over that inmates didn't deserve to know your only fact that could actually help us."

Walter doesn't hold it against Malcolm individually. He's sure the man would have answered him if he directly asked. Walter was mostly trying to pretend the whole thing wasn't happening. But the way he heard Malcolm talking about inmates in general hurt him where he identifies with the group. He doesn't want to be just "one of the good ones".

Date: 9 Jul 2024 20:17 (UTC)
forensicks: by me (Guy)
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There's something that becoming friends with Pyotr reminded Walter of, which turned out to be a couple years after his friend's time but something Walter had come across in his more active libertarian phase. In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread. His hand gets tenser.

"Even closer to unilateral, then, just some wardens. What's the definition of directly involved, huh? Did inmates have any chance of that?"

Date: 9 Jul 2024 22:57 (UTC)
forensicks: by <user name=mukha> (Impatient)
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"Huh," Walter says. "I get to profile you for once." He lifts his hand away, taps his own temple. The hot cocoa is getting very cold.

"For someone who did nothing wrong, you sure guessed exactly what hurt my feelings."

And it's a really weird thought that Walter has let someone hurt his feelings. He doesn't care about the cops who succumb to occupational hazards, not at the end of the day however little pleasure he took in the physical acts. Even as late as when he approached Will, he mostly thought this would impact Malcolm's capital with other wardens who could help Walter in the future. But no, he really... doesn't want to compromise with Walter.

"Gold star!"

Date: 10 Jul 2024 00:20 (UTC)
forensicks: by me (Bad)
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"You really came off like an inmate doubting wardens was funny to you. I don't know what the technical term is, sarcasm? Maybe pedantry? Let's go with snappy comeback. That part," he says, "the 'you... said that backwards' part." He knows there were two or three separate interactions on the post - he really doesn't think of Malcolm saying his piece and leaving Rosita be on read afterwards as an accurate description, but that may just be his perspective when the specific part of the conversation hit him so hard.
Edited (small grammatical edit) Date: 10 Jul 2024 00:21 (UTC)

Date: 10 Jul 2024 03:10 (UTC)
forensicks: by me (Work)
From: [personal profile] forensicks
"This is... very hard to hear." Walter tries to be honest. He's... hearing a distinct lack of anything more specific than purely verbal drama that Rosita surely flipped around, that this itself is a case of virulent hatred he hasn't expressed in this moment for the killers on the loose. "I've kept tabs on some of your other network dust-ups like Eiffel's movie night, and Ken and Hilbert. That's why I was going to check on you that day we watched Time Bandits, you know." Almost like it's a pattern!!! Though downplaying the horrors he's experienced is also a pattern. "But Rosita, no, I don't keep tabs on her. Being frank, if her sister showed up I might assume it was her, that's how long it'd been since I actually saw her video feed. Refreshing my memory, all that came to mind was that she seemed to be like me. Human. Hasn't attacked anyone here. But dealt an even harder hand in life."

Walter reaches for the cocoa cup, turning it to swirl the foam in funny shapes he looks down at.

"And she was saying something I thought I agreed with. That the middle ground of info on the attack was the worst of both worlds." He looks up at Malcolm. Thinking of his friend makes it all the easier to focus on, to fake, that sincere desire for absolution he felt in the chapel that first day. "No, it's totally different for me and Pyotr. He can't see the name tags either, so how is he supposed to know that wardens have worked on themselves ways inmates haven't been able yet? Experience. Trust over time. For starters, I was one of the ones actually asked if I wanted to live, and I'd been in that network access flood before too. He showed up right before a breach, me right after. Everything's added up so it's hard for him to put faith in the services in this place, and if you ever did get to catch up on the special person flood, I think you have an inkling for one big reason why."

Date: 10 Jul 2024 03:44 (UTC)
forensicks: by <user name=mukha> (Impatient)
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"What you guys were actually saying can't be smoothly removed from the context, but yeah, I'd like to think that's what I reacted to." Because he agreed with Rosita's thinking that it was bad for the attack to be announced without a name and face... And was hurt by that sharp comment about inmates doing their best... It's hard to even quote word for word without losing the context.

He turns his head away towards one of the lovely windows. Gives a "pff" smile. "Maybe it doesn't even feel like that to you." That Walter knows him. Whatever.

Date: 10 Jul 2024 03:58 (UTC)
forensicks: by me (Reminisce)
From: [personal profile] forensicks
"I know that's douchey, but sometimes I need to do it anyway because... there's also something to grapple with-" Haha, back and forth, like dancing- "when someone forgets. Not just doesn't intuit... Blocks it out. Forgets."

He sits there with the hot cocoa in both his hands and adds quietly:

"I know you struggle with that too."

Date: 10 Jul 2024 06:40 (UTC)
forensicks: by <user name=mukha> (Frantic)
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"Okay, what did I see then, a shutdown? A meltdown?" Walter supposed Malcolm has enough support to be completely confident in not missing time, that it's not what it's like from his perspective.

"Maybe some time when you looked like you weren't letting anything in even though you actually were? Because you were in trauma? ... Like the dream flood?"

Date: 10 Jul 2024 12:31 (UTC)
forensicks: by me (Bad)
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"I wasn't told the name of the place, but yeah, presumably that. You literally have the worst dad in the world, wow."

Might as well have his own distant matter of fact reaction.

"When you didn't react all those times... I thought, maybe it's because he can't see it. That you'd... judge her."

Date: 10 Jul 2024 13:04 (UTC)
forensicks: by me (Comfort)
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Walter gives that Oprah "and there you have it" shrug. "I mean, it's entry level psychology that a person would conflate one with the other," he says.

Date: 10 Jul 2024 15:42 (UTC)
forensicks: by <user name=mukha> (Banter)
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"That would explain why you had the opportunity to stab him," Walter says. The man being out of prison and in public, that is. He does wonder if the notoriety from the incident is yet another reason he'd rather stay here for a long time. "But... There are different kinds of love." Though Walter wouldn't want to invalidate, in his personal taxonomy he wouldn't say that Malcolm is describing love, but rather the aftermath of abuse that required acknowledgement and closure. "My grandma never hurt me, once, ever. You know how I was as a dumb kid, I honestly didn't like her being locked up one bit. Well, now I know better. Life doesn't work that way."

Here he is. Locked up. Separated from the one he loves.

Date: 10 Jul 2024 17:10 (UTC)
forensicks: by me (Comfort)
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That sure was a thing, as they say in those superhero movies. It's actually also kind of like Misty, the ghosts of Malcolm's past coming to haunt him all over again, and him doing the best to help.

"It never mattered to me." He's never been honest about that with anyone else. He's never looked more like Lydia than in that moment. "Even though the victim was Grandpa Joe. Isn't that crazy? But I only ever had one grandma." He recites with a distant pleasantness: "I can tell you she wasn't acting in immediate defense of her life or dignity or that of another. Oh, yeah, also no criminal insanity."

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